Thursday, June 16, 2005

James Taranto wrote this for me...

I've got nothing else to say on this one. Just remember, when you can't get enough press on your own, call someone a Nazi.

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Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:11 p.m. EDT

Durbin Supports the Troops

Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, took the Senate floor yesterday and likened American servicemen to Nazis (link in PDF):

When you read some of the graphic descriptions of what has occurred here [at Guantanamo Bay]--I almost hesitate to put them in the [Congressional] Record, and yet they have to be added to this debate. Let me read to you what one FBI agent saw. And I quote from his report:

On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold. . . . On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.

If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.

We are fighting an enemy that murdered 3,000 innocent people on American soil 3 1/2 years ago and would murder millions more if given the chance--and according to Dick Durbin, our soldiers are the Nazis.


Patrick Armstrong said...

1. When your opposition is wrong, it does not make you right.

Nothing excuses torture. Nothing excuses calling American troops Nazis. There are no gas chambers in Guantanamo Bay.

2. Sen. Durbin even now refuses to apologize. He should straight up resign. I'll start this ball rolling. I'm a Democrat. Way left. Big on progressivism. (SAWB will back me on that) Senator Durbin should resign. Today. Right now.

Patrick Armstrong said...

And another thing:

3. If an FBI agent saw all of that, he should pursue the issue through the Justice Department channels he has available to him. The few individuals responsible for any real crime can be brought up on charges. This Agent should sign his name to the affidavit, and can, even in a bind, bring it before a US Circuit Court to request an injunction. The fact that there is no name attached, no charges actually filed, and no proceedings actually working their way through the system tell me that this stuff is more from fantasyland.

patsbrother said...

Huzzaguzzah! goes out to paT for noticing the lack of attribution attached to the account Mr. Durbin details.

However, and I know you both don't care and don't agree, if the account turns out to be true, then I'm more worried about the torture than what some senator said. The nazis did many shitty things besides what you primarily remember them for; just because we fall immeasureably short of their worst sin doens't mean a senator who calls alledgedly shitty practices in Guantanamo Bay naziesque is an un-American nutjob.

I withold my condemnation of the man until I hear word on whether the report he read is fact or fabrication.

Patrick Armstrong said...

Kevin, if the account turns out to be true, then everyone is in trouble. First of all, the FBI agent will be in deep, deep trouble for failure to report commission of a crime. That's awful big, and reporting the crime to Senators who want to get their names in the paper does not count. Second, this 'Senator' could have called any number of very quiet committees and panels to actually -investigate- if he believed the matter important enough. If that didn't work, he could have very quietly shut down the Senate until someone did something - no reason to call more attention to this than necessary. Instead, he goes in front of TV cameras and quotes not only an anonymous source, but uses language that only Amnesty International can screw up. Even if there was abuse, his hair-brained 15 minutes of fame scheme made sure that absolutely no allegations of abuse will be taken seriously by the American public.

So reserve judgement all you want, it simply doesn't matter at this point, and you have this yahoo to thank.

It doesn't even matter if he did or did not actually call anyone a Nazi (or a Soviet or a Pol Pot). He inferred it so people would pay attention to him. Like a spoiled 5 year old. Well he gets his wish.

RE: my "he needs to resign" comment: We don't need nor want Democrats like this, as they only do damage to America, her fighting men and women, and the Democratic Party as a whole.