Tuesday, November 01, 2005

Please God, make it so...

Cindy Sheehan for PRESIDENT?!? Cindy Sheehan for the United States Senate from New York?!? Please, God, let it happen. If the left thinks they can exploit the growing schism between the religious right and the rest of us on this side, just wait til they get a dose of their own medicine.

Key activists have come to that conclusion, too, figuring they'll have a better chance of finding an anti-war candidate than of moving Clinton. Already, the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, and the Progressive Democrats of America have begun casting about for a challenger. Some envision the perfect candidate as an anti-war Iraq veteran, like Paul Hackett of Ohio, who announced his run for a U.S. Senate seat last week. Others have a different kind of cachet in mind.

"When I heard the name Cindy Sheehan," says DeBar, the Ossining activist, "I thought, great."

Last month, DeBar, himself a former Green Party candidate, proposed a Draft Sheehan effort on a Green message board. Unlike some Greens who are pushing a Sheehan for President initiative, DeBar wants to see her move from her home state of California to run against Clinton in the New York primary next year. That way, he writes in his post, "she could force a seismic shift in the direction of the Democratic Party."


Yeah, it would be a seismic shift alright. Catastrophicly seismic.

In other news, Harry Reid has far too much free time on his hands. Hey Harry, you had more than a few opportunities to debate this before now. What's this end run about now?

9 comments:

patsbrother said...
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patsbrother said...

The kicker here, I suppose, is that you are hoping for a schism within the Democratic ranks, between Democrats...and the Libertarian and Green Parties.

S.A.W.B. said...

Actually, what i'm hoping for is that one/some/all of the current Democrat splinters, Green/Progressive/Socialist, etc, can line up and press Cindy into the Senate race against Hillary in '06, while at the same time, grabbing another chunk of the existing Democrat bloc, thereby eroding the power base for Hillary, which will expose her Senate seat for a Republican/Conservative challenger.

The way I figure, all I need is for Cindy to get 15% of the vote in the race, as I can all but guarantee that her votes will come for non-right side voters. That should be enough to keep Hillary from winning the Senate seat again, and should put a damper on her White House aims in '08.

And yes, we can discuss why Hillary Clinton scares me in great detail much later...

Dante said...

The Presidential elections are too far off for anyone to remember Sheehan by then. They NY Senate race might also be too far off for her to remain relevant (from a media standpoint, not a political standpoint). At this point, I really think the right is paying more attention to Sheehan than the left.

On the subject of Hillary, I'm not too scared of her. She might get her NY seat back and she might even win a Presidency, but this is still America so she still has to pass legislation through Congress and the Supreme Court will be relatively stable by 2008.

patsbrother said...

minus b plus/minus square root of b squared minus four ac, all over two a...

I must admit, though, I was trying to figure out what all would have to happen for America to get a President that did not double as a Wizard of Oz character before 2008. The Tin Man's manufactured heart would have to fail and the Scarecrow would have to be able to read the writing on the wall and resign before nominating Toto (or any dog) as a replacement. Hassert. I could respect a President Hassert for three years.

The difference is I know this is a pipe dream that, while not impossible, is implausible. I know you don't want to believe this, but we (read: Democrats) really don't care about Sheehan. You may point to the 200 people mentioned in the article (the picture showed a disinterested eight), but that is out of a borough of 2 million, a city of 8 million, and a metropolitan area of 19 million people. The Tate Center preachers have proven to me that any idiot with a voice can attract a crowd half that size out of just passersby. Notice that the only person who has yet to bring up the Flying Monkey #6 (Sheehan) on this blog (you) is a Republican.

Maybe I missed the sarcasm, but it disturbs me when someone I consider to be an intelligent human being actively hopes a most attenuated confluence of highly unlikely events will come to pass.

S.A.W.B. said...

Hey, I hope i'ma hit the lotto every time too, doesn't hurt to speculate what I'd do with the money...

Do I really think that the Left-splinters won't have found another darling to run by the time election season comes around? No. Would I giggle for days if for some reason, they kept Cindy Sheehan as their 'Gold Star' candidate? Absolutely. Do I feel the need to throw out speculative numbers to watch Hillary go down in flames, much like the MSM polls do? Sure, why not, makes for amusing copy...

Patrick Armstrong said...

Number one, the schism happened before. The Nader campaign did convince a startling amount of folks that Gore and Bush were different sides of the same coin. Perot did the same thing in 1992.

This stuff ain't pure speculation, is all I'm sayin', and when you're dealing with some of the moon bats we have on our side of the aisle, anything is possible.

Probability only matters on math tests, by the way. Besides, speculating on outcomes is what we do around here, unless you missed that fact the last time we played cards. And we have an entire different website dedicated to our football speculations.

Buzzzbee said...

I'm having a hard time understanding why you keep bringing up Cindy Sheehan. I keep almost forgetting about her and then I come here and get reminded that she exists. It seems like since she's done so much damage to Bush's popularity and considering his current situation(Libby, Rove) and the situation of the party as a whole(Frist, Delay) you guys would let her 15 minutes expire.

A quick tip:WWKD What would Karl do? The public doesn't view her as a politician. If they did she wouldn't have been able to have the impact she did. As such, the usual tricks don't work with her. When you try paint her as a wacko, you guys just look like you're picking on a poor, defenseless, greiving mother. I'm not saying that that is or isn't the case, but that's what it looks like. The smart thing to do is to just let her disappear back into oblivion. That's what I would do if I were a Karl Rove.

Patrick Armstrong said...

I would like to remind the readers that Ms Shenanigans called for an end of "occupied New Orleans." She crossed the line from defenseless mother to wacky, out of touch pundit at that point, if not before.

Though I had forgotten about her. I thought that she had followed through with her promise to chain herself to the White House fence. There's only so much news that can be made from self incarceration, after all. I thought we were finally just ignoring her.

I thought we'd get some real yardage out of some of my other posts. Alas, in this microcosm of political theory, just like the big leagues, it looks like the least consequential topic gets the most ink.