Tuesday, August 03, 2010

Deep Breaths

Sometimes it takes a lot to remind myself that there are still some sane Republican statesmen around. They don't get the big press because they may not fire up the base and drive advertising dollars like the bombastics at the top of the ticket, though I think more folks would tune in if they had a chance to hear what was being said.

So it is a calming influence to think of US Rep. Paul Ryan and his Roadmap.

I don't have to agree with them, but it is refreshing to praise those who recognize realistic problems, and not the land-of-make-believe that most of the GOP seems to inhabit these days. Even the Daily Dish calls Ryan "A Republican Who Gives [him] Hope"

From the Post link:

Ryan said he does not think that voters would punish the GOP for shunning attack politics and for speaking plainly about the country's problems. He notes his own political success: He won reelection in 2008 with 62 percent of the vote despite coming from a district and a state that voted for Obama.

"It's really important, I think, not to run campaigns on some vague platitudes and rip down the other party, to hopefully win an election by default," he said. "You have to win an election by acclamation, by aspiration, by telling people who you are and what you are going to do, and then go do it once you get there."



DADvocate said...

They don't get the big press because they may not fire up the base...

Probably more because the big press have a hard time demonizing him. The MSM want to focus on Repubs they can paint as extremists and whackos.

Cousin Pat from Georgia said...

To keep it real, there are plenty of Republicans that love to get their own faces on television, just like Democrats. The most controversial and the attention-seekers tend to get on the air more. If they embarass themselves there, that is not the MSM's fault. Anyone can hire a publicist.

It would be very easy to demonize Ryan, by Breitbarting his ideas and splicing them out of context.

I think his calm, pragmatic demeanor keeps the press away. Though it could be that a lot of folks in the MSM don't understand the root problems his plan is attempting to address.

DADvocate said...

that is not the MSM's fault.

It is when they have a heavy bias and are looking in one direction 90% of the time. Sure, his calmness makes him less entertaining. In Democrats that being level-headed, in Republicans it's being boring.

Maitri said...

I love that Paul Ryan from Janesville, WI (white supremacist stronghold) is considered the face of the moderate Republicans. Cracks me up!

Cousin Pat from Georgia said...

Hell, I'm a caucasian born in Birmingham and raised in South Georgia. I don't quite fit the caricature of those areas, do I?

And I'd rather have a coherent policy discussion with Paul Ryan and Ron Paul concerning their sincere attempts to solve realistic problems with actual policy solutions (no matter how wrong I think they are).

Because the alternative is the Sarah Palinite, ursine imagineering, play-revolutionary, death panelist refudiation of reality.

Dante said...
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Dante said...

And you wonder where the Sarah Palanites come from, Pat? What's the point of a legitimate policy discussion? As Maitri has so aptly pointed out, such attempts only end with Republicans getting shouted down as racists.

Here's the typical Republican attempt at policy discussion:

Republican: We have this new policy road map...
Democrat: RACIST!
Republican: ...that we think will be good for the country...
Democrat [with fingers in ears]: La-la-la-la-la. I can't hear you. RACIST!
Republican: ...and here are the specific policies involved...
Republican: You know what? Forget it. Vote with us or vote with the terrorists. Good night.
Democrat [as Republican is walking away]: Come and see the racism inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Edit: The deleted comment is mine. I made a pretty significant typo type in the original conversation transcript (using the word "supremacy" instead of "supremacist").

Cousin Pat from Georgia said...

In all honesty, the Road Map represents fairly significant alterations to parts of our government that have been consensus items for a long, long time.

I understand completely the shock that Ryan's ideas represent the moderate voice of the Republican Party. But considered alongside the alternative, these ideas that would once represent a radical conservative position appear far more moderate.

This happens when other high profile members of the GOP advocate for a rollback of religious pluralism, eternal war and occupation of the Middle East, and the idea that cities with bicycle infrastructure are signs of the coming UN takeover of the United States.

No, I don't wonder, I know where Palinites come from. They come from the households with the most paranoid imaginations. These people are convinced that me (personally) and those like me are trying to convert their children into godless, America-hating, Muslim homosexuals who engage in communism with the help of Black Nationalists, Illegal Immigrants and Illegally Voting Felons.

Because no one can disagree with them on legitimate grounds. I know, I've tried.

The idea that some liberals reply to their "ideas" as "racist" is because they refuse to engage or even acknowledge the many liberals and Democrats that address thier policy positions on their mertis. When they have actual policy positions and not marketing ploys, that is.

Because a very deeply important right-wing badge is to be called a racist by a "liberal." I know several people who constantly employ the phrase "I get called a racist all the time," with exactly zero evidence to back that statement up.

(And I won't even mention that a lot of Palinite/right-wing knee-jerkers hear cries of "OMG TEH RACIZMS" even when the liberals or Democrats are addressing what effect their policy positions have on different demographics based on race.)

But here's a good example: if I were to repackage the Road Map, and sell those ideas as coming from a Democratic politician, most Palinites and Tea Partiers would call them "communist," "fascist," and "America-hating" ideas.

Maitri said...

No, no, I like Ryan for the most part, even if his understanding of the progressivist philosophy as put forth ironically by one Wisconsin Republican known as Robert La Follette is ... well ... unique.

And as Dante has so aptly pointed out, Republicans just love to twist words (or make them up or cherrypick them, as the case may be). I didn't say Ryan is a racist. "Comes from" is not "is."

Being from Wisconsin and loving to point out the quirks of my state, I was merely pointing out that I find it funny that a part of the state synonymous with the KKK produced Ryan, just like crazy-liberal Madison has produced some super-neocons.

If it makes you feel any better, Joseph McCarthy is buried in his hometown of Appleton, WI. And that he was from there cracks me up, too. Aaaah, I love my state, we don't drink a lot for nothing.